Take two guys who’ve been best friends for 30 years, put them in pastoral ministry for a while, let them both be sufficiently battle-scarred by their former churches, then stick them in a room with microphones and whiskey, and this podcast is what you’ll get.

Join Jason (who’s Catholic – sorta) and Christian (who’s agnostic) as they do shots, drink cocktails, and pontificate on a vast array of cultural, political, and religious topics, many of which they know absolutely nothing about. But every now and then, when the mood is just right, one of them actually makes an amusing remark or a poignant observation (even though he can’t remember a damn thing about it in the morning).