We begin this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors with a simple question about murder which then spirals into a depressing diatribe about the end of the world. We touch upon the new documentary about 9/11 on Apple TV+ and then briefly discuss Green Lights, Matthew McConaughey’s new memoir (he’s not quite as stupid as you’d think). We hear from Jason’s attorney about political sectarianism and segue into what it’s like to talk to a Trump supporter at a party. Biebers involve produce bags and failing at discretion.