In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors, Jason and Christian analyze why Jason gave up a comfortable job with a high salary to potentially end up sleeping in his car in Christian’s driveway. (Unfortunately, Jason no longer has a car, which is ironic considering his new career attempt.) The ex-pastors then take on Jason’s critics, of which there are many, who seem to delight in his demise and what they consider to be his inevitable downfall. Speaking of downfalls, Jason and Christian also address those particular critics who seem to be lacking the sense of humor necessary to deal with the “Rev. Jason Stellman” being on a podcast called Drunk Ex-Pastors.
Their resident heckler “badclowney” is addressed as well as the scorned almost-stalker-turned-hater, John Bugay. A shot and a drink are in order for these detractors who have unwittingly sent a slew of new listeners to the podcast, thank you very much. Christian has an untriumphant display of vocabulary prowess and can’t remember how he pronounced “Bono” 10 seconds ago, but at least he keeps from swearing for almost the entire episode. Closing with a joint bieber, Jason and Christian destroy an American holiday.
All in a day’s work.
Jason
I was not excommunicated, but dismissed with warning or something. Other presbyteries would have probably tried me for heresy in absentia, but this is the PNW, so.
Christian
I’m not sure there’s anything we can do about this since posting a comment reloads the page. I believe the home page has a link with each podcast to play it in a new window. Of course, there’s always iTunes now as well.
Hector
Jason mentions the myth that colonization was for evangelism was actually true in the case of the Puritans. In what way? Puritans exploited Native Americans too. Maybe NOT like Christopher Columbus, or the Conquistadors, but it was still exploitation. Moreover, in some ways the Puritans helped lay the foundation for concepts like “American Exceptionalism”, and “Manifest Destiny”. Both, in my opinion, some of the most racist philosophies America has produced. Can you please explain what you meant?
Jason Stellman
I actually agree with you, Hector. I was just referring to the overt religiosity of the Amerian Puritans, as opposed to the financial concerns of the other settlers.
Jason Stellman
At least, that’s what I think I was referring to. . . .
John Gaitan
This was interesting to listen to, Jason, I’ve observed your journey some from afar. I’m finding that my days of reformed protestantism might be numbered and I’m feeling a strong pull towards Eastern Orthodoxy. I have wondered why you landed in Rome instead of Constantinople. It’s also interesting to hear Christian say that if he ever embraced Christianity again it would be in the form of Eastern Orthodoxy. Interesting discussion.
Hector
fair enough. thanks.
Christopher Lake
Hey, Jason,
I’m curious– have you heard of the “9 Marks of a Healthy Church” movement? It was started by Pastor Mark Dever and Matt Schmucker (a former cradle Catholic who now believes that “consistent Catholics” aren’t even Christians) at the “Reformed Baptist” church where I used to be a member in D.C. http://www.9marks.org/
The “9 Marks” thinking and practice on church discipline (which I have personally experienced– and it has been very rough) makes what I have heard about the same subject from *some* PCA people sound comparatively easy-going… almost like the free-wheeling nature of the Burning Man festival… “Hey, man… I don’t like what you’re doing with that whole becoming Catholic thing there… I wish you’d come back and join our party.. but if not, hey, party on with the Papists, dude!” 🙂
Completely seriously though, I am sorry for the very real pain and trials that you have been through since becoming Catholic. I can definitely relate. Largely due to my Catholic “reversion,” I’ve been unemployed now for longer than I even care to admit here. I still don’t regret the decision though. In the end, there was really no other choice to be made for me (as I think that you’ve said of yourself too in your respective situation).
I am really, really glad for you, though, that you were never a Reformed Baptist. In my experience, it’s Shun City, if you are R.B. and become Catholic (or, even worse, revert, as I did)… After I returned to the Church, Mark Dever unfriended me on Facebook without one word (thus contradicting his own public teaching on church discipline). That still hurts, because I really did love him as my former pastor who taught me so much about the Bible and Christian thinking, and who helped me in other ways too. I’ve forgiven him, but I just don’t get that choice on his part. I hope that you haven’t experienced anything that extreme from your PCA friends.
Jason Stellman
Thanks for the kind words, Christopher. Really appreciate it.
mildly buzzed current pastor
I’ve listened through #13 now. By far the funniest thing in all of them is the sign off from #11 C: “I have not said a single swear word this entire podcast and you have said 7 or 8.” J: “that’s bullshit asshole.” Christian: “So to all these people–all of our detractors who think we’re just here to drink and cuss…to all those people I just want to say, ‘Fuck you!'”
Christian
Ha ha! I forgot about that. That was fun. 🙂
Heather
“mildly buzzed current pastor” #thebest