Episode #148 of Drunk Ex-Pastors begins with the usual banter, this time involving Christian coming out of the closet, whether we get drunk enough on the show, and a story from Jason about this old Indian with the most random bigotry ever. We take a couple calls that help us lay to rest the “girls” vs. “women” debate, after which we revisit the issue of hell (it’s been a while), and specifically whether our notion of justice demands some sort of system of retribution and rewards when all is said and done. We address the House’s recent “healthcare” bill and what supporting it says about a person (hint: they’re either evil or just dumb). Lastly, our “Dick Move, God” segment highlights the demise of a Father/Son business that initially showed such promise. Christian is biebered by some city that ancient Hebrews decimated, while Jason’s bieber has to do with having to finish the job that his server started.
Also, the frickin Irish, am I right?
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Edward Fudge is indeed a conditionalist, but conditionalism is synonymous with annihilationism. I think what you’re describing would be restorationism, or if you like universalism.
Great episode! But your rant on AI seemed pretty STEM illiterate. AI researchers distinguish between two types of AI; Artificial Specific Intelligence (ASI) and Artificial General Intelligence (AGI). The former is an AI that’s mastered a specific task or set of clearly related tasks, and the latter is what you guys are (rightly) saying we don’t have.
We do have artificial specific intelligence, and that’s not just semantic. It’s not that someone has “programmed in every possible thing that could happen”. ASI has been trained how to LEARN to be good a specific task or tasks.
NOT Intelligent: Giving a toddler a book containing every possible arrangement of checkers on a checkerboard and telling them to follow the corresponding moves.
Specific Intelligence: Tell the toddler the rules to checkers and say “now play until your fingers bleed” and they figure out strategies that help them win.
General Intelligence: The toddler from the second example takes what they learned about reading their opponents in a game of checkers and applies it to create a law firm.
I think Zebedee was probably pretty well off.
He had multiple boats, hired hands, and political connections with the high priest, maybe even family connections, since John’s gospel says John got himself into Caiaphas’ house to see Jesus’ trial and also commanded the door man to fetch Peter when it became known to him that he was outside the house’s wall.
Seeing his grown ass sons leave to go join a cult probably sucked for him, but his business probably didn’t go bankrupt because of it.
Don’t cloud a good DMG with a bunch of “facts.”
Finally caught back up. It was fun listening to the evolving thoughts on girls vs women. When you guys first talked about it, I thought Jason kind of brushed it off … but I had faith, Christian would get him there 🙂
When you guys have a discussion, then respond to voicemail and emails each week, it’s a strange way to communicate. If like you are writing letters back and forth, and it takes a week to respond. I think the delay is what may have caused some of the angrier voice and emails, followed by the heated response. Maybe there needs to be a facebook group where people can go and talk about their feelings … or maybe people just need a mentoring sessions 🙂
On the topic of Hell. In a universal-ist or conditional-ist theology, is Jesus needed? Does he need to have actually come and died for our sins or can he be a story like how you view much of the old testament?
Love the show! You guys rock!