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Also, Christian and Jason get kicked out of yet another organization.
Jeremiah
Jason and Christian,
Great episode! I have to admit that Google’s version of my question was way more entertaining than the original, although I thought the Thief In The Night reference was pretty funny.
Anyhow, I hope was hoping for a clarification from Jason. He jokingly said that Orthodoxy was “The lazy man’s Catholicism.” Since the Orthodox Church (Chalcedonies and Non-Chalcedonian alike) have a very rigorous ascetically practice, as well as a very deep spiritual life, I was surprised by that comment, even if it was said in jest. I don’t take offense to it, but I would like clarification. I understand the issue with Orthodox rejecting the Papacy as it has existed for the last several centuries, but other than that, what does Jason think is “lazy” on the part of the Eastern Church. Especially given the fact that the Roman Catholic Church has within it’s sphere the Churches of Eastern practices (Greek Catholics, Eastern Catholics, etc) does he see the Eastern spirituality as lazy, or simply the rejection of the unilateral and universal authority of the Bishop of Rome?
I very much appreciated what Jason had to say about Saints within the Church, and the examples their lives gave. I would like to point out that Eastern Saints are on a par with Western Saints (St Maria Sobscova of Paris as an example). I also like the way he addressed the issue of pointing out that the Scriptures and many “difficult sayings” in them (as well as events, especially in the Old Testament) and need to be properly understood in order to make sense of them, rather than taking a childish stance on them, ascribing some kind of evil to God, or the “speaking for God” many see in the Scriptures. Like Jason pointed out, the Catholic and Orthodox understanding of the Scripture gives clarity to what is otherwise very ambiguous, or seeing evil/cruel/etc. Not only that, but in many ways, the Catholics and Orthodox ignore many of those texts (to an extent), because the point of our lives is not in the minutia, but in loving God and neighbor.
I am sure Jason can give this a better treatment than I can in this brief comment section.
Oh yeah, hats off to Christian for reminding Jason that the Papacy does not have Christian’s respect, but the collegial synodality of the Orthodox Church does. (I am kidding of course)
Also, just to clarify (since I have heard it mentioned that I am Orthodox) I spent the first 30 years or so of my life in Calvary Chapel. In fact, my parents “got saved” and were married by none other than Chuck Smith at Costa Mesa. I grew up going to Calvary Chapel Lake Arrowhead, went to CCBC in Twin Peaks, and Worked at the Camp in Green Valley Lake (where I met my wife). I was PCUSA for about 5 years before I found the Orthodox Church, and eventually converted, along with my daughters. I was beginning to go the agnostic route myself, but a chance post by The LT directed me to a podcast that change my life forever.
I guess that would be one of the “good things” the internet has provided.
Just to bring one more bit of clarification, I hope that the Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic Church find a way to reconcile and restore communion with one another.
I am very much enjoying the show, and look forward to it each week. Keep up the great work!
Jason J. Stellman
Hey Jeremiah,
Well, I haven’t actually listened back, and have zero recollection of having said that (!), but I’ll give it my best shot.
Probably what I meant by the comment (which was made mostly in jest) was that Orthodoxy has the advantage of avoiding most of what offends people about Catholicism (such as the papacy, as well as its less stringent stance on things like contraception).
In short, I have had never heard someone be ostracized for becoming EO the way they do for poping. In fact, I had seminary profs beg me to go to Constantinople instead of Rome. So it’s way easier, is what I’m saying.
PS – If I ever write a book on this topic, the title will be Rome/EO, Rome/EO: Wherefore Art Thou, Rome/EO?
Christian
I just trademarked that title. Thank you.
Heather
“Rome/EO, Rome/EO: Wherefore Art Thou, Rome/EO?” I just spit coffee all over my screen.
Jason
Aww, shucks (blushes and looks at ground). . . .
Heather
Knock that off. False humility is not your color.
Jeremiah
Jason,
I figured you were joking, I just wanted clarification. I had no idea such an offense was taken by people over the choice of Rome over Constantinople. I know about and have read some of the vitriolic venom people were spew at you after your conversion, but I had no idea that Orthodoxy would have been an easier pill for Reformed types to swallow.
Since I was in the PCUSA, their lack of conviction about their own tradition made for a pretty smooth exit. The pastor at the time tried to appeal to my commitment to the community and tried to shame me into staying. But it was pretty weak.
Jason Stellman
Thanks, Jeremiah.
The thing about staunch Reformed types is that hatred for Rome justifies their existence, and EO is a kinder gentler way to give props to antiquity and the ECFs.
And for my part, I really like EO. I see us on the same team, even when that sentiment is not returned (which it often isn’t).
Trevor
Have you guys ever smoked dope while recording your podcast? Could add an interesting dimension.
Christian
Nope. I think that would tip towards more entertaining for us and less entertaining for anyone else. 🙂
Trevor
Maybe on your 420th episode…something to shoot for’
Christian
Ha ha! If we make it that far, we’ll consider a spin-off called “High Ex-Pastors.” 😉
Trevor
Well hopefully you guys will get to a point where you quit your day jobs and put out a podcast every day. I’m a domesticating manny (male nanny (for my own children)) and your podcast gets me through loads of laundry, dishes, and food prep. I can actually say that I look forward to domesticating each day because I get to listen to you guys. Thanks for making my days a little less boring.
Christian
Thanks for the encouragement and for listening, Trevor! We are hoping to be able to go to two a week soon. We’ll see! 🙂